rigging problem in maya

[3omar]

saba7 el foll 3ala a7la naas,
ana me7ttag moss3ada fi el influence objects....i created a model and converted it into a subd,whilst having a wrap deformer controlling it and skinned to the skeleton,i finished my skinning and weights...but when i want to adjust the skinning a little bit,and add influence objects they dont work,am adding them using the technique describe by alex alvarez in his dvd skinning 4-influence objects....any insights will be really helpful
thanx
omar

[Particle]

Welcome...
Placing a picture will help us more to understand the problem...
thankx

[دختور]

I know that DVD and watched it. It is old man. There many new methods to make your life easier.

You don't need to use SubDiv really. You can use Polygon proxy and then skin it directly then do smooth proxy on it. So you will get the smooth version when you render. It is much much faster that the wrap deformer and easier to set up.

Regarding the influence objects. All I can say it is highly unpredictable and the results are bad usually. The best is to use a corrective blendshape.

Download it for free from here
http://www.b-ling.com/

Select your version of Maya and install it. The next time start Maya you will get a new shelf, select it.
What you will do is usually move on of the joint like the elbow joint 90 degree.
Then select your model and click the button for corrective blendshape. Select the model in the middle and move the verticies until you get the desired results. Now select the last object (The one that looks weird) with that selected Shift select your original model. Click blendshape then you control your blendshape with set driven keys. The results are far superior and so easy and predictable.

I hope my explanation wasn't complex.

[3omar]

thank u soo much it helped me a lot and i finished my blendshape and they are all working accordingly,but one last thing...i laid out my facial expressions in layers and i entered them into the model for example as follows,facial sheet,body sheets etc.the problem now is wheni move one the scroll for one blend shape in the facial sheet layer it affects the edited blendshape of another layer.....ie it zeroes it out,any way around that will be extremely appreciated,i cud enter them all into one layer in the blendshape editor,but it will be confusing for me whilst animating....thanx again u provided me with gr8 help
omar

[nazzal]

شكرا اخوتي
ولكم لي سؤال اخي دختور
انا حملت البلجن وكله تملم ونزل في الشيلف...ولكني لم استوعب طريقه استخدامه مع البليند شيب
لو ما فيهاش مضايقه ممكن شرح ولو مبسط لطريقه الاستخدام....
ملحوظه فقط ياريت الشرح بالعربي او بالصور لو جهازك لا يدعم العربيه
او اضعف الايمان انجليزي معرب
وياريت يا شباب اي حد عنده اي معلومه في هذا الصدد الا يبخل علي بها
شكرا 3omar علي الموضوع
شكرا دختور علي المساهمه القيمه

[دختور]

I know what you mean by zeroing out the results between blenshapes 3Omar. Actually the blendshapes should be on the same blend node and in Front of Chain to avoid any problems. Adding another blendshape could mess things up. What I would suggest to solve your problem is to use Attribute Collection from the Bonus Tools that come with Maya.
So once you open Attribute Collector you can create the attributes you want to seyKey and add it in there. It will be much easier as well.

Nazzal, Hi Sorry but I don't have Arabic.
Can you send me your email address. I will send you some pictures since I don't want to offend the people here. My character wont get accepted here if I want to put some screenshots.

[3omar]

thanx sooo much dakhtoor.....your help is really appreciated.and u are welcome nazzal...i posted this topic due to struggle with the program lool

[rabieart]

مش قلتلك يا عمر اسأل على المنابر و ان شاء الله لن يخذلك اهلها
اتمنى ان تكون المشكلة اتحلت فعلا
و مع مزيد للجميع بالتوفيق و شكرا للخوة على المشاركة بالمعلومات فى هذا الموضوع الشيق و الاكثر من رائع و شكر خاص للاخ ((( دختور )))

[دختور]

Thanks and I am at your service.
I think I will add some useful information before someone asks for it

In case you've used Blend Corrector and did half the correction say you did it for the right side of the character and you want to mirror it to the left. There is an easy and straight forward way to mirror your blenshape to the other side. Copying and using negative scale will not solve the problem as the verticies are still in the same side whether you use X or -X. It makes no difference.

A tool called SmartVTX by Firas is very helpful for mirroring vertex positions. Get it from here
http://white.prohosting.com/firas3d/

Go to MEL scripts section
There are also two video tutorials

[nazzal]

شكرا يا دختور علي ابداء المساعده
وبالنسبه لايميلي هذا هو اتمني ان اجد ايميلك منور فب الان بوكس عندي
mohamed__nazzal26@hotmail.com

[3omar]

ya salaam ya abo 3ali.... mashy ya 3aaam men 7a2 el kebir yedala3....thanx again for the help all....

omar