تهراقا ملك سوداني قديم وهو نوبي (( انا ايضا نوبي )) لذي تجدني فخور به لانه كان ملك قوي حكم مصر والسودان ونعم الناس في زمنه بالخير كان موحدا رغم انه فرعون

استغفر الله .. دعوها فإنها منتنة

بفكر اسمي ابني نبوخذ نصر بما انه هزم اليهود وكان حاكم قوي ووحد البلاد


بفضل لو كل واحد بنسى العربي شوي وبتحدث بلغه حضارته بكون افضل

وارى انه من الانسب ان نقوم بحرب حضارات لنرى اي حضاره ستنتصر الفرعونيه ام البابليه ام ........

لانه عيب علينا ان نتحدث بالعربيه ونحن في خصام كبير

يا أخ

الحضارة التي تجمعنا والتي افتخر بها هي حضارة الإسلام وحسب

لا حضارة الفراعنة ولا النوبيين - كما يحلو لبعض العنصريين - بل الإسلام والإسلام فقط

يا اخي هل دعوت للنوبية او اي شيئ ؟؟؟؟ الاسلام فقط هو ما يجمعنا وفخرك باهلك وماضي بلادك وتاريخك لا يتنافي مع اسلامك وانتمائك للاسلام

اطلعلي بره استناني جنب منبر عرض ونقد

"Rarely does the modern pilgrim in Egypt realize that there was no civilized ancestry from whom the prehistoric Nile-dweller might receive this inheritance of culture." -James H. Breasted

"Just like English, the Arabic language spread through conquest and colonialism. And so, today, to call an Iraqi Kurd, or a Chaldaean, or an Assyrian an Arab, or to call an Egyptian Copt an Arab, or to call a Lebanese Maronite or Druze or Melkite or Jew an Arab (all on account of their wielding of the Arabic language in one form or another), would be tantamount to cultural suppression and historical erasure." -Ecce Libanus

"We are like a woman with a difficult pregnancy. We have to rebuild the social classes in Egypt, and we must change the way things were." -Neguib Mahfouz

"Egyptians are not Arabs and are not Africans despite the fact that Egypt is in Africa." -Dr. Zahi Hawass

"What is most significant [about Egypt in the 19th century] is the absence of an Arab component in early Egyptian nationalism. The thrust of Egyptian political, economic, and cultural development throughout the nineteenth century worked against, rather than for, an "Arab" orientation... This situation—that of divergent political trajectories for Egyptians and Arabs—if anything increased after 1900" - Jankowski, James. Egypt and Early Arab Nationalism, in Rashid Khalidi, ed. The Origins of Arab Nationalism. New York: Columbia University Press, 1990, pp. 244-45.

The ancient population of Egypt has never been extinguished nor replaced, but is in fact ancestral to most of the modern population of Egypt. Ancient Egyptians looked very much like modern Egyptians; the faces on the walls of tombs and temples can be matched by the faces to be seen on the streets of modern Cairo. - A statement from Royal Ontario Museum.

*Before the discoveries at Giza, scientists in Cairo had been analyzing the DNA of modern Egyptians. Now, they had successfully extracted the DNA from the ancient bones. And a genetic comparison established a firm relationship and recognized its solid existence. The results were definitive: People who are living here, they are the same as the people who had been living 6000 years ago. And now the moderns are the descendants of these ancient Egyptians. The DNA confirmed a close relationship between the modern Egyptians living in the Nile Valley and the ancient workers who had been buried there. - DR. Moamena Kamel, an immunologist at Cairo University.

"According to al-Ya'qubi, repeated revolts by Egyptian Christians against the Arabs took place in the 8th and 9th centuries under the reign of the Umayyads and Abbasids. The greatest was one in which disaffected Muslim Egyptians joined their Christian compatriots around AD 830 in an unsuccessful attempt to repel the Arabs. The Egyptian Muslim historian Ibn Abd al-Hakam spoke harshly of the Abbasids—a reaction that according to Egyptologist Okasha El-Daly can be seen "within the context of the struggle between proud native Egyptians and the central Abbasid caliphate in Iraq." - El-Daly, Okasha. Egyptology: The Missing Millennium. London: UCL Press, 2005. p. 165.

"Historically, Egyptians have considered themselves as distinct from 'Arabs' and even at present rarely do they make that identification in casual contexts; il-'arab [the Arabs] as used by Egyptians refers mainly to the inhabitants of the Gulf states... Egypt has been both a leader of pan-Arabism and a site of intense resentment towards that ideology. Egyptians had to be made, often forcefully, into "Arabs" [during the Nasser era] because they did not historically identify themselves as such. Egypt was self-consciously a nation not only before pan-Arabism but also before becoming a colony of the British Empire. Its territorial continuity since ancient times, its unique history as exemplified in its pharaonic past and later on its Coptic language and culture, had already made Egypt into a nation for centuries. Egyptians saw themselves, their history, culture and language as specifically Egyptian and not "Arab." - Haeri, Niloofar. Sacred language, Ordinary People: Dilemmas of Culture and Politics in Egypt. New York: Palgrave Macmillan. 2003, pp. 47, 136.

"The Egyptians are not Arabs, and both they and the Arabs are aware of this fact. They are Arabic-speaking, and they are Muslim —indeed religion plays a greater part in their lives than it does in those either of the Syrians or the Iraqi. But the Egyptian, during the first thirty years of the [twentieth] century, was not aware of any particular bond with the Arab East... Egypt sees in the Arab cause a worthy object of real and active sympathy and, at the same time, a great and proper opportunity for the exercise of leadership, as well as for the enjoyment of its fruits. But she is still Egyptian first and Arab only in consequence, and her main interests are still domestic." - Deighton, H. S. The Arab Middle East and the Modern World, International Affairs, vol. xxii, no. 4 (October 1946), p. 519.

ليه الناس مش مقتنعه ان انت تقول لشعب انه غرور بدون حق تعتبر شتيمه
و على فكره شتيمه ل 85 مليون يعنى 85 مليون سيئه
انا لا اعادى تهراقا ولا شئ
سوال ليك انت:كام مصرى شفته وجها لوجه؟و كام مصرى من الى شفتهم مغرور؟
اذا لم يتعدى نسبه المغرورين النصف من المصريين
فاستغفر ربك عشان انت شتمت 85 مليون بدون حق (85 مليون سيئه )
و لا اظن انى لو فتحت موضوع و قولت اليمنين مغرورين و اطلب منهم يقتنعوا بده او يسكتوا يبقى افترى منى
مع احترام لليمن طبعا لا اقصد شئ مجرد مثال
و لو الفخر غرور يبقى انا كمان مغرور جداااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااااا جدا
لا اقصد اى اسائه اخى بالتوفيق
بتجمع ليه ؟ واخدين مين ؟؟؟؟؟؟
هو الى كتب الرد يبقى رد عليه هو, مش تجمعها على المصرييين

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اى شخص قال على المصريين مغرورين من غير ميقابل مصرييينن وجها لوجه يفكر شويه

سبق ان اعتذرت و استغفرت الله من ان اسيئ لاحد دون وجه حق الرد رقم 32

سبق ان قابلت الكثير من المصريين ولدي الان الكثير من الاصدقاء المصريين
وانا اصلي من منطقة علي حدود مصرية ولدي اهلي من دمي لكنهم مصرين لانهم في الحدود المصريين

ولي صهر مصري

لا اقصدك انت
اعتذر ان فهمتنى خطا

إنما المؤمنون اخوة

ليس
المصرييون اخوة

في الحقيقه الموضوع زاد عن حده
وبما اني اتدخل دائما لاي بلد اخر في نفس الموقف فليس لدي اي حرج لاتدخل لحماية بلد من السنة الحاقدين
1.. من لا يعرف مصر يبحث من الذي اقضي علي التتر وطرد الصلبيين وحارب اليهود وجها لوجه
2.. من يتهم مصر بالعماله ينظر لبلده اولا وبعدين يتكلم (ولا مش عارف عباس بيعمل ايه يا يوسف ولا انتو ملايكه في الداخل ؟)
3..من ينكر علي المصريين اعتزازهم باصلهم يراجع ردوده يا اخ تهراقا يا نوبي يلي مسمي اسمك علي من احتل مصر !
معذره ساغلق الموضوع وتحذير للاخ كاتب الموضوع من التعرض لمصر او اي بلد اخر في اي موضوع هنا
احنا مش ملطشه ولا منتظرين محاكمة من احد وكل واحد يصلح نفسه افضل من وضع نفسه قاضي علي خلق الله
بالتوفيق